100kb https://100kb.danhill.is/rss Feed of articles written by real people with interesting things to say. By Dan Hill (https://danhill.is) (Dan Hill) Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:34:08 +0000 Mathematical Practice, Proof Assistants and Meaning — consequently.org https://consequently.org/presentation/2025/mathematical-practice-proof-assistants-and-meaning-calgary/ consequently.org https://consequently.org/presentation/2025/mathematical-practice-proof-assistants-and-meaning-calgary/ Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:30:00 +0000 Church https://www.vianegativa.us/2025/02/church-2/ In front of the parking garage, a total stranger accosts me with this question: Would you be interested in coming to my church? Wow. So, is there a better way to answer besides No thank you? Today,… www.vianegativa.us https://www.vianegativa.us/2025/02/church-2/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:57:38 +0000 One Of The Best (But Lowest Paying) Jobs I Ever Had https://askdna.coffee/bestjob/ When I was going to university, one of my part-time jobs was at a coffee shop. In its prime, this place was a super-hip two-level joint with a licensed bar, ... askdna.coffee https://askdna.coffee/bestjob/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:42:00 +0000 Nope. https://www.web-goddess.org/archive/54058 Guardian Media Group today announced a strategic partnership with Open AI, a leader in artificial intelligence and deployment, that will bring the Guardian’s high quality journalism to ChatGPT’s global users... Yeah, no. Subscription cancelled, and I told them why. www.web-goddess.org https://www.web-goddess.org/archive/54058 Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:38:47 +0000 IntentionalTech.exe https://library.xandra.cc/intentional-tech/ molly got me thinking about why we tech oligarchs in the first place: these college kids, scrappy, hustle-culture entrepreneurs that we launched into the... library.xandra.cc https://library.xandra.cc/intentional-tech/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 22:36:00 +0000 Althouse: "[T]his is like an amazing puzzle, uncovering the secrets of an ancient civilization that went extinct … except it’s still around." https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/02/this-is-like-amazing-puzzle-uncovering.html The logic flow diagram for the Social Security system looks INSANE. No one person actually knows how it works. The payment files that move b... althouse.blogspot.com https://althouse.blogspot.com/2025/02/this-is-like-amazing-puzzle-uncovering.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:54:00 +0000 severance https://kuranes.bearblog.dev/severance/ Until now I've been blogging under my real name. I write about technical topics that interest me, typically in a kind of tutorialized neutral tone. I've seen... kuranes.bearblog.dev https://kuranes.bearblog.dev/severance/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 21:36:00 +0000 Khaled Abou Alfa https://www.kaa.bz/2025/02/17/almost-perfect-always-a-fan/ www.kaa.bz https://www.kaa.bz/2025/02/17/almost-perfect-always-a-fan/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:59:53 +0000 Heart Eyes | kindertrauma https://www.kindertrauma.com/heart-eyes/ A part of me wishes that the entire planet blew up while I was watching HEART EYES to insure that I died happy and doing what I loved most. It’s no secret I love slasher movies and there’s a special fluffy space in my heart for a holiday slasher that I can count on to www.kindertrauma.com https://www.kindertrauma.com/heart-eyes/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:48:42 +0000 Today’s Third Video Link – News From ME https://www.newsfromme.com/2025/02/17/todays-third-video-link-13/ www.newsfromme.com https://www.newsfromme.com/2025/02/17/todays-third-video-link-13/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:20:43 +0000 What is Time? https://bear.borb.blog/what-is-time/ What is time anyway? What would it be like if we didn't keep time? I don't know exactly how this would work, but it would be fun, probably less stressful. I ... bear.borb.blog https://bear.borb.blog/what-is-time/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:14:36 +0000 The marketing genius of Bryan Johnson https://www.petecodes.io/marketing-genius-of-bryan-johnson/ Bryan Johnson has grabbed the world's attention with his Don't Die lifestyle. You might have seen his Netflix documentary where he talks about taking 100 pills a day in order to live longer. Or maybe you saw his YouTube videos where he shows the world his workout routines. If you www.petecodes.io https://www.petecodes.io/marketing-genius-of-bryan-johnson/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:51:21 +0000 Drake & PND, Freddie Gibbs, Addison Rae, Sabrina Carpenter | Weekly Track Roundup: 2/17/25 https://theneedledrop.com/opinion/drake-pnd-freddie-gibbs-addison-rae-sabrina-carpenter-weekly-track-roundup-2-17-25/ Whoa, we're going crazy. Hi, everyone. Anthony Fantano here, Internet's busiest music nerd. I hope you're doing well. And it's time for another weekly track roundup. My thoughts and feelings on a bunch of tracks that have dropped over the past week or so. Let's get into it. Bam, bam. theneedledrop.com https://theneedledrop.com/opinion/drake-pnd-freddie-gibbs-addison-rae-sabrina-carpenter-weekly-track-roundup-2-17-25/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:49:11 +0000 Rebuttal to Brianne M. Culliton’s 2024 paper, “The Generative AI Pirate” – Tim Boucher https://www.timboucher.ca/2025/02/rebuttal-to-brianne-m-cullitons-2024-paper-the-generative-ai-pirate/ www.timboucher.ca https://www.timboucher.ca/2025/02/rebuttal-to-brianne-m-cullitons-2024-paper-the-generative-ai-pirate/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:33:40 +0000 Running your own AI in-house – Part 1 – LLM/LVM – Ollama in the shell - Sindastra's info dump https://www.sindastra.de/p/3373/running-your-own-ai-in-house-part-1-llm-lvm-ollama-in-the-shell?pk_campaign=rssfeed&pk_kwd=running-your-own-ai-in-house-part-1-llm-lvm-ollama-in-the-shell In this guide I'll show you how to install Ollama and running your first LLM/LVM, recommend some models, give you examples on how to script with it and finally how to describe images. This is the first article in a series of articles on how to run AI in-house. www.sindastra.de https://www.sindastra.de/p/3373/running-your-own-ai-in-house-part-1-llm-lvm-ollama-in-the-shell?pk_campaign=rssfeed&pk_kwd=running-your-own-ai-in-house-part-1-llm-lvm-ollama-in-the-shell Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:24:34 +0000 First Look at Matt Damon In Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey | Cosmic Book News https://cosmicbook.news/christopher-nolan-odyssey-first-look-set-images First look at Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey! Set photos confirm the Trojan War, the setting, the iconic Trojan Horse, and show off an actor. More inside. cosmicbook.news https://cosmicbook.news/christopher-nolan-odyssey-first-look-set-images Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:54:03 +0000 Changing Stimulus Triggers Intrusive Thoughts https://davidexe.com/changing-stimulus-triggers-intrusive-thoughts/ When meditating if you wait long enough so that your body sensations feel “stale” in a very similar way to if you stare into space the image starts to b... davidexe.com https://davidexe.com/changing-stimulus-triggers-intrusive-thoughts/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:49:00 +0000 Work Friends, Real Friends https://louplummer.lol/work-friends-real-friends/ Work is for work they say, but sometimes you get lucky and make some genuine, lasting friendships there. louplummer.lol https://louplummer.lol/work-friends-real-friends/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:49:00 +0000 A historic driving tour of the presidents https://www.indignity.net/a-historic-driving-tour-of-the-presidents/ Indignity Vol. 5, No. 30 www.indignity.net https://www.indignity.net/a-historic-driving-tour-of-the-presidents/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:41:55 +0000 Atlas of Surveillance - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2025/02/atlas-of-surveillance.html The EFF has released its Atlas of Surveillance, which documents police surveillance technology across the US. www.schneier.com https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2025/02/atlas-of-surveillance.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:35:59 +0000 An addendum to yesterday's post; you do not in fact have to hand it to the icicles https://blog.curiousquail.com/an-addendum-to-yesterdays-post-you-do-not-in-fact-have-to-hand-it-to-the-icicles/ MSD's first ice storm (If you can even call it that) blog.curiousquail.com https://blog.curiousquail.com/an-addendum-to-yesterdays-post-you-do-not-in-fact-have-to-hand-it-to-the-icicles/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:32:00 +0000 The Other Side blog: Monstrous Mondays: Monstrous Maleficarum #2 - Return of the Orcs https://theotherside.timsbrannan.com/2025/02/monstrous-mondays-monstrous-maleficarum.html The Other Side Blog is a game design blog from Timothy S. Brannan theotherside.timsbrannan.com https://theotherside.timsbrannan.com/2025/02/monstrous-mondays-monstrous-maleficarum.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:30:00 +0000 Strawberry Hotel by Underworld https://www.joshbeckman.org/blog/listening/strawberry-hotel-by-underworld Rating: 4/5 www.joshbeckman.org https://www.joshbeckman.org/blog/listening/strawberry-hotel-by-underworld Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:27:12 +0000 in defense of working less https://blog.avas.space/working-less/ i talk about my reasons behind always wanting to work less and supporting others who want to, too. blog.avas.space https://blog.avas.space/working-less/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:20:00 +0000 From the Archives: Native American Code Talkers https://multoghost.wordpress.com/2025/02/17/from-the-archives-native-american-code-talkers/ Twenty-eight years ago today, Joe Keiyoomia passed away. Sgt. Keiyoomia was a Navajo soldier who served in the U.S. Army during World War II. He survived two of the most horrific events to occur in… multoghost.wordpress.com https://multoghost.wordpress.com/2025/02/17/from-the-archives-native-american-code-talkers/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 16:00:44 +0000 Flower Power https://alexandrawolfe.ca/flower-power/ Day two of a raging storm and horizontal blowing snow … so what better than sharing something warmer, sunnier days. alexandrawolfe.ca https://alexandrawolfe.ca/flower-power/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:55:31 +0000 Believe in Something https://catchingstrays.substack.com/p/believe-in-something Technologists have a courage problem. catchingstrays.substack.com https://catchingstrays.substack.com/p/believe-in-something Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:33:09 +0000 Enhancing engineering workflows with AI: a real-world experience - Building Nubank https://building.nubank.com.br/enhancing-engineering-workflows-with-ai-a-real-world-experience/ How Nubank uses AI to revolutionize engineering workflows with LLMs planet.clojure.in https://building.nubank.com.br/enhancing-engineering-workflows-with-ai-a-real-world-experience/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:16:18 +0000 Bananas (Weeknotes #25-07) https://mihobu.lol/weeknotes-week-07-2025 Here’s what happened during the week of February 10–16, 2025. mihobu.lol https://mihobu.lol/weeknotes-week-07-2025 Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:06:00 +0000 ‘The Woman of the Pyramid and Other Tales’ https://thepulp.net/pulpsuperfan/2025/02/17/the-woman-of-the-pyramid-and-other-tales/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-woman-of-the-pyramid-and-other-tales I recently read and reviewed another early work from Perley Poore Sheehan (1875-1943) and bemoaned the fact that his early works, especially several fantastical works, hadn’t been reprinted. … thepulp.net https://thepulp.net/pulpsuperfan/2025/02/17/the-woman-of-the-pyramid-and-other-tales/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-woman-of-the-pyramid-and-other-tales Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:00:02 +0000 700 000 files (Update) https://eco-elf.bearblog.dev/700-000-files-update/ I didn't imagine myself returning to blogging, yet here I am. I'll be trying to post occasionally as a way to hone in on my goals and the progress I want to ... eco-elf.bearblog.dev https://eco-elf.bearblog.dev/700-000-files-update/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:36:00 +0000 Sponsor: How Comics Were Made by Glenn Fleishman – Pixel Envy https://pxlnv.com/linklog/sponsor/how-comics-were-made-feb-17/ Priced originally at $65, it’s currently on sale for $39 (plus shipping) — no coupon is required. How Comics Were Made follows the intensive, magical, and industrial journey a newspaper comic takes from a cartoonist’s hand through the transformative production process to make it ready to appear as ink on newsprint—and behind, onto digital displays. […] pxlnv.com https://pxlnv.com/linklog/sponsor/how-comics-were-made-feb-17/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:30:44 +0000 Reviewer notes: Avoid any ambiguity about analysis aims https://www.the100.ci/2025/02/17/reviewer-notes-avoid-any-ambiguity-about-analysis-aims/ Always confident. Sometimes credible. social experience -> X). But it may also be because they enjoy more parental attention (only child -> parental attention -> X). Importantly, confounding could also provide an explanation, for example, only children may result from divorce (only child <- divorce -> X) or from women delaying childbearing as they prolong education (only child <- maternal education -> X). Last but not least, child characteristics may actually affect whether subsequent children are born (X <- child temperament -> only child). And all of these may be true simultaneously, resulting in the observed association. Sometimes, researchers are interested in associations, but upon closer look, it becomes clear that those associations are only deemed interesting because of certain causal interpretations. One sign that this is the case is when researchers start to condition on third variables to “rule out alternative explanations” or “remove spurious associations.” But an association really just is what it is, it cannot be “contaminated” by spuriosities – what can be contaminated by spurious associations is a causal effect estimate. And the existence of an “alternative explanation” implies the existence of a favored explanation, which is most likely a causal one. So, if you feel the urge to “control away” some parts of the associations of interest, it’s quite likely that your estimand is in fact a causal effect (see also Wysocki et al.’s“Statistical control requires causal justification”).[4]There could of course be scenarios in which the the estimand of interest is in fact aconditionalassociation of some sorts. In that case, the introduction needs to make clear why this conditional association is of interest.  For example, we may be plausibly interested in whether firstborn children are systematically different from laterborn childrenwithin families of the same size.jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2050_1_4').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2050_1_4', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); PostPredictive Modeling A special case of an associational research endeavor is building a predictive model. If you’re doing that, your introduction needs to motivate an actual predictive use case and your discussion should be focused on implications for the application of the model for said use case. Predictive utility isalwaystied to a specific use case(see e.g., Hunsley & Meyer, 2003)and a prediction model is always only validated within a specific context(Van Calster et al., 2023). For example, psychologists may be interested in whether X predicts Y beyond some other information Z that is available. But even if such “predictive utility” has been demonstrated, it need not hold in a scenario in which the base rate of Y is different, in which the sample was selected in a different manner, or in which the other information that is available changes. If you are looking for generalizable knowledge, a predictive model may not be the tool you are looking for. If you find it hard to generate a specific use case for your model, or if you are mainly focusing on the “contributions” of individual predictors and what they may tell you about the world, again, maybe a predictive model is not the right tool for your job. Your research question may in fact be a causal one.[5]I ramble more about “prediction” in psychology inRohrer (2024).jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2050_1_5').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2050_1_5', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); **What to avoid** Don’t write an article with the following structure: - introduction that motivates a causal research question - analysis framed in associational terms - discussion that interprets the findings causally - limitation section that says that findings should not be interpreted causally You can’t have a causal cake and correlate it too. People have repeatedly pointed out that this style of research is bad for a variety of reasons (most prominently,Hernán, 2018; for a take for psychologists, seeGrosz et al., 2020). But I think the logical inconsistency and disingenuity of it is actually a sufficient reason to stay away from it. You may feel uncomfortable trying to support causal claims with observational data, but trying tohideyour causal estimand is just not a good way to deal with it. One better way involves tackling the issue head on: Explicating both the causal estimand and the identification assumptions under which your data can indeed inform you about the theoretical estimand. An upside of this approach is that you already have something substantial for your discussion section, namely a critical discussion of the plausibility of your identification assumptions. (Another option would be to change the theoretical estimand, which would usually entail writing a different paper altogether.) One special case to consider here is a situation in which you have a (usually causal) theory which predicts that you should observe certain associations, and then you check whether these associations exist in your data. This is,as far as I can tell, just another way to do causal inference and should thus be treated as such. **Quality vs. quantity** Last but not least, you may of course have multiple main research questions and thus multiple theoretical estimands. In that case, all of the above applies to each of them. If this sounds daunting to you – it is my general impression that (at least in my line of research) psychologists try to squeeze too many ambitious research questions (and thus too many estimands) into a single manuscript. Maybe they are simply underestimating how much effort it would take to provide a rigorous and reliable answer to any single one of them.[6]Malte asks: Isn’t Estimalami slicing a problem? The answer will depend on how the estimands are logically connected. For example, if you have an experimental manipulation X and want to look at its effects on Y1, Y2, and Y3, which are all related constructs – by all means, do that in one paper. If you are looking at thecorrelationbetween one of the Big Five personality traits and some other variable, you might as well also throw in the other Big Five. In fact, that’s expected in personality psychology. If, instead, you are trying to estimate the effect of X on Y and you barely have a proper identification strategy in the first place, and then you add “oh and is this effect mediated by M1 depending on the level of the moderator M2?” then you are probably trying too much at once.jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2050_1_6').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2050_1_6', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); One step to improve the quality of inferences in psychology may be trying to make fewer inferences in the first place and take things a bit more slowly.[7]For one more sketched out vision of what that could look like, seeconclusion of Rohrer et al. (2022).jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2050_1_7').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2050_1_7', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); ]]> www.the100.ci https://www.the100.ci/2025/02/17/reviewer-notes-avoid-any-ambiguity-about-analysis-aims/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:01:30 +0000 Tower of the Archmage: Sci-Fi Terrain: Transfer Unit https://towerofthearchmage.blogspot.com/2025/02/sci-fi-terrain-transfer-unit.html towerofthearchmage.blogspot.com https://towerofthearchmage.blogspot.com/2025/02/sci-fi-terrain-transfer-unit.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:00:00 +0000 Bing https://dsale.blog/bing/ I have a couple of complaints with Bing News. First of all, its RSS feeds. When one subscribes to them, everything seems fine. Then, they update with the... dsale.blog https://dsale.blog/bing/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:59:00 +0000 I'm on Fallthrough: Patching Problems with Persnickety Proxies Purveyed by Paternalistic Princes · Jamie Tanna | Software Engineer https://www.jvt.me/posts/2025/02/17/fallthrough-go-mirror/?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss Announcing my appearance as a guest host on Fallthrough, discussing the Go module proxy, pondering 'is Go dead?' and whether the Go team at Google have our best interests at heart. www.jvt.me https://www.jvt.me/posts/2025/02/17/fallthrough-go-mirror/?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:40:46 +0000 Transcript: Christine Phillpotts, Ariel Investments - The Big Picture https://ritholtz.com/2025/02/transcript-christine-phillpotts/ Macro Perspective on the Capital Markets, Economy, Geopolitics, Technology, and Digital Media The transcript from this week’s,MiB: Christine Phillpotts, Ariel Investments, is below. This is Masters in business with Barry Ritholtz on Bloomberg Radio. Barry Ritholtz: This week on the podcast I have another extra special guest. Christine Philpots of Aerial Investments has specialized in emerging markets and frontier markets. For most of her career, she has been around the world and if you name a hotspot investing place, she’s been there. South America, Asia, Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa and Middle East, as well as Southeast Asia and Asia. She’s a boots on the ground type of investor who focuses and specializes in emerging market value. What makes that style of investing so interesting and different is simply market inefficiencies. You know, the US markets are so efficient, large cap tech stocks, it’s really hard to have an edge in that space. But when you look at emerging markets and when you look at value, the opportunity for alpha is much, much greater than it is in traditional large cap growth stocks in the US And a lot of managers in that space actually beat their benchmark. You can’t say the same for us large cap stocks. I thought this conversation was really informative and fascinating and I think you will also, with no further ado, aerial investments. Christine Philpots. Christine Phillpotts: Thank you for having me. Barry Ritholtz: So, so that’s a really fascinating background. I’m curious, I didn’t even talk about the grassroots business fund. We’ll get to where you work at JP Morgan, but economics bachelor’s from Columbia MBA from Harvard. Was finance and investing always part of the plan? Christine Phillpotts: The quick answer is no. So I pretty much tripped into finance when I was in middle school and high school. I wanted to be a concert pianist, so actually Oh really? Yeah. So I spent probably 90% of my time outside of school on the piano, practicing and playing at concerts. Wow. And essentially decided to pivot from that original plan because it became clear to me as I got older that to really make a living as a concert pianist, you need to be the top 1% in the world. Right. And I was good, but not top 1% good. Barry Ritholtz: That even that might not be, it might 0.1%. Christine Phillpotts: Exactly. Right. And so I was told that I was very good, but that’s a pretty high bar. So Barry Ritholtz: Do you still play? Christine Phillpotts: I don’t actually, but my kids are taking piano lessons, so I’m being inspired to kind of restart. So then I decided to explore other options, but finance was not one of them because I just had no exposure to finance whatsoever. And so the way I came across finance is when I was in high school, I was applying for scholarships for college and I came across the Thomas Rex Smart Start Scholarship program that was run by Chase Bank. So it’s a program that selects New York City high school students who are going to university in New York City and it offers a four year full tuition paid scholarship to college. Right. As well as a paid internship full-time during the summer, part-time during the school year. Wow. So I came across that opportunity, I applied and was lucky enough to get it, and then I said, okay, now I need to figure out what finance is actually all about. And luckily, as I, you know, started my internship when I was 18, over the years, you know, throughout college I learned more and more about the different areas of the bank and became really intrigued with investment management specifically. But if it was not for that program, I may not be in this industry. Barry Ritholtz: Really interesting. And, and I noticed in your background you spend some part of your undergraduate playing around in the psychology department. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about the thinking there. Yeah, Christine Phillpotts: That’s right. So I decided to become an economics major and a psychology minor. I always had this interest in just understanding how people think and what drives just people’s reactions, emotions, behaviors. That was just always a side interest of mine. And in particular as a psychology minor, I had an opportunity to work with a Columbia professor on an independent study, specifically focused on cognitive psychology. And I found that subsegment really interesting because we did studies on kind of decision making biases, human biases like loss aversion and other biases that impact otherwise what should be rational decisions and make them less than rational. And so doing that in college, that independent study really opened my mind of, to what eventually I learned to be the behavioral economics and finance area, but I didn’t even know what it was called or that that was an area back then. So the intersection of psychology and economics became really interesting. Barry Ritholtz: Very much so. The, the fascinating thing is when I was in college and even when I was in grad school, there really wasn’t any such thing as behavioral finance, but it was pretty clear. Economics had a fundamental flaw, like the base concept of humans as rational profit maximizing decision makers. Hey, that doesn’t seem to be what happens in the real world. Yeah. I think they’ve kind of squared that circle now. Absolutely. Do you get to use any of your, the work of behavioral economics in, in your day job? Christine Phillpotts: Absolutely. So as an investor we constantly to be, need to be aware of our own human biases ’cause we’re humans, so we are prone to the risk of making irrational decisions as well. But it’s also really interesting to think about how these biases at the market level really creates interesting opportunities. Right? It’s because of these biases that we have inefficiencies in the market that we can then exploit as active investors. So if the markets were perfectly rational, arguably there’d be no opportunities. So it’s just interesting to think about, again, as an investor, how do you handicap your own biases? And we do that through several ways. For example, we use some quantitative tools and approaches to help offset those natural biases. But also thinking about at the market level as a whole, as we think about the aggregate market participants, how we can exploit some of those biases to generate alpha. Barry Ritholtz: And to round out your background, you spend time at Alliance Bernstein, JP Morgan Asset Management and Morgan Stanley. W were you at Morgan right. Heading into the financial crisis? Is that right? Christine Phillpotts: I was, what was the right there? Yes. So that was a very fascinating experience. So I participated in an MBA fellowship program at Morgan Stanley. So when I resigned from JP Morgan to pursue my MBA at Harvard, I applied to and got accepted into Morgan Stanley’s MBA fellowship within the investment bank. So that involved two years full tuition paid for business school as well as a summer internship. Nice. Within the investment bank. And so I, I’m an investor through and through, but I thought it was an interesting opportunity to look at the other side of the house and to join the sell side and kind of see how the other side operates, you know, from the inside. And so I decided to join the capital markets group and specifically I was part of the convertible debt group. Oh really? Which was interesting because I actually started my career at JP Morgan Asset Management in the high yield and investment grade credit research team. And then I moved on to the equities team afterwards. So it was kind of an interesting way to combine my debt and my equities experience. And I did a lot of options math, which I thought was interesting. And I just learned a tremendous amount. But it, it, summer of 2008, as you can imagine, was a really interesting time, particularly for the convertible bond desk because we were the busiest desk. As other parts of the market were closed, literally shutting down the convertible debt market was one of the last ones to remain open before September, 2008. And so that summer we ended up, I ended up working on about a billion dollars worth of new issuance. So I actually got a chance to work on a lot of new convertible debt deals before that window closed. So it was just a really interesting timing and learning experience. Barry Ritholtz: I have a vivid recollection of the summer of oh eight, and I remember saying to one of the traders I was working with, I just kind of channeled Robert Deval from Apocalypse Now, where he turns to Martin Sheen and says, you know, son, someday this war’s gonna be over. And because you were in the middle of just the craziest market experience you can have, and I wanted people to just remember what’s going on now. ’cause this ain’t ever happening again in your lifetime. Absolutely. And like I I, I assume you had a very similar experience at Morgan Stanley. It had to be just bonkers. Christine Phillpotts: Yeah. It was just literally, there were headlines coming out on a daily basis, tick by tick every minute. Barry Ritholtz: Yes, it was, it was, it seemed like every, every time you turn around there was some other insane news and it just built and built and snowballed. Christine Phillpotts: Absolutely. And, and so by the time I got back to Harvard in September of oh eight, right, I mean obviously the Lehman collapse occurred and really just the bottom fell out and we’re all kind of looking at each other saying, well, on the one hand I guess it’s good that we’re in school as opposed to, you know, being on the street and having just been laid off. But I vividly remember later that year, the Dean of Harvard Business School indicating to us that that comparing us the class that graduated during the Great Depression. Right. And his message was basically like, they turned out just fine eventually over time. And we were like, okay, well this puts it into perspective. Right. Barry Ritholtz: Well, well, well thanks for the cheerful, you know, halftime speech to get everybody enthusiastic. Hey, just think about it. The folks in the Great Depression, they turned out just fine. Yeah. Oh my God. Let’s talk a little bit about International Finance Corporation. Tell us about the fund that you helped them establish. Christine Phillpotts: Yeah, so I graduated from HBS in summer of 2009 and I was fortunate enough to join the Grassroots Business Fund, which had been a division of the International Finance Corporation and literally spun out first half of 2008. So what was really unique about that is is one of the few funds that actually had a fresh pool of capital to deploy. Barry Ritholtz: Ah, so they weren’t dealing with legacy things that were upside down? Christine Phillpotts: No, they, we were able to enter a pretty compelling time in terms of having fresh capital to deploy. And so that fund’s focus is on businesses, small and medium, medium-sized, privately held companies that not only have good growth prospects and could generate healthy financial returns, but that are also providing economic opportunities to the base of the economic pyramid. So providing affordable goods and services to customers in incorporating individuals in supply chains in productive manner. So it was an impact oriented private equity private credit fund. Barry Ritholtz: And where was that focus? What geography did they focus in? Christine Phillpotts: So the focus was on emerging markets, more specifically Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, India, and Southeast Asia. So Barry Ritholtz: You traveling all over the world to kick tires of these private companies or Yeah. What’s that like? Christine Phillpotts: Yeah, absolutely. So during my time there, I was probably employee number four or five. So I joined soon after the spin out to help really establish our investment processes as an independent entity, provide the game plan for where we’re going to invest and ultimately help recruit other investment professionals as we’re building out the team and ultimately investigate deals and structure deals and invest in portfolio companies. So my original focus was Sub-Saharan Africa. I did spend a summer between JP Morgan and HBS in Kenya working with a microfinance organization. So I had some experience in Africa that was able to leverage for this role. And so to answer your question, I spent probably three to four months out of the year on the ground. Wow. So I was based in DC as a member of the management team. But I would go four month at a time really working with the entrepreneurs that we had invested in, looking at diligence, working with partners, kicking the tires as you said, which really provided great experience to understand emerging markets on the ground. And a lot of the nuances, particularly for smaller and medium sized companies. Barry Ritholtz: And, and give us the timeframe, what years were you doing this? ’cause I wanna put it into context of what was going on in the US at the time. Christine Phillpotts: Yeah, so I joined in August, 2009, and I left to join Hawaiian Bernstein in late 2012. Barry Ritholtz: So what were emerging markets like in that post-financial crisis period? Christine Phillpotts: Well, what was interesting is, particularly for the segment of the markets the fund was focused on, which is really smaller, mid cap, private equity and private credit, they were pretty unaffected by the global financial crisis. Makes sense. ’cause these are companies and in some cases countries that were never really fully integrated into the global financial system. Right. And so as the global financial markets were in a tailspin, they were actually very resilient. And so we had really attractive opportunities. For example, that was a time period where mobile banking and mobile payments was starting to emerge. We had a couple investments in that arena. We had off-grid clean energy investments. We had really interesting agribusiness and agri processing companies, consumer product companies. So companies that really were targeting the local markets and customer bases and supply chains that just were not at all impacted by the global financial crisis. So to me that was the definition of uncorrelated asset. Barry Ritholtz: To say, to say the very least. So it’s interesting, the theme across all of your work, or most of your work is, is emerging markets and frontier markets. What led you to, to that particular focus? Christine Phillpotts: Yeah, so when I was at JP Morgan, I was covering US tech stocks. I was a research associate on the buy side working with senior analysts, looking at, you know, software Barry Ritholtz: Mid two thousands tech. Christine Phillpotts: Yeah. From basically oh four up until I went to business school, which was oh seven. Barry Ritholtz: So the recovery following the.com implosion had already begun. Christine Phillpotts: It already started, yes. Barry Ritholtz:  But we hadn’t quite run into the bus of 08-09. Exactly. Christine Phillpotts: So basically by the time I, I mean, looking back, I left at the peak of the market of, obviously I didn’t perfectly time it, but when I was leaving, I remember pretty close, I remember my colleagues telling me, well, why are you going to business school? That’s gonna be a waste of time, right? I mean, the markets are doing very well. Why, why are you doing this to your career and let alone you’re going to Africa to do microfinance? Like, what’s going on? They thought, I think they thought I had a quarter life crisis. So in hindsight’s Barry Ritholtz: Quarter life crisis, I love that. Christine Phillpotts: But hindsight’s 2020. But, but what’s interesting is to answer your question about the pivot to emerging markets, what really drew me was a couple of things. So one is the idea of being focused on less efficient part of the capital markets was very compelling. I tend to be the type of person that if everyone’s going in, you know, route one, I want to go into route two, three, and four, just to kind of not be with the herd and to see what else is happening that people may be overlooking. And, you know, with large cap tech stocks, if the CEOs caught a cold, there’ll be 20 sell side notes about the fact that the CEO caught a cold that’s very well covered markets. Whereas in emerging markets, and particularly markets like Africa, they were just not really being talked about. And so I was very interested to look behind the hood, see what was happening, and be in an arena where I could, I thought I could add more value and have more of an edge by doing research in areas that other people ignored. From a personal standpoint, my parents are originally from Haiti. So I was born and raised in New York, but I’m first generation. And so there was a lot of conversations around the dinner table around why are poor countries poor? What could be done about, it talks about economic development and the intersection with, you know, political reform and just how that affects developing countries more broadly. And so that was also from a personal standpoint, a really strong interest of mine that led me to want to pursue emerging markets. Barry Ritholtz: So I’m, I’m hinting at a question that’s gonna come a little later, but my general sense is, you know, developed mature economies have fairly efficient markets, very hard to generate alpha because markets are so efficient. I’m gonna assume the same is not true in either EM and especially in frontier markets. Yeah. What, what are your thoughts? Christine Phillpotts: That’s, that’s absolutely the case and the data proves it out. So for example, if you look at the last 10 years of returns, the median active EM manager across style. So value, growth and core has outperformed the benchmark or passive strategies over the last decade. That is not the case when you look at US large cap Barry Ritholtz: A hundred percent. In fact, I think the number is net of fees 10 years out, it’s like 93% underperform the benchmark in in us. Not even big cap, just us period. It, it’s, it’s pretty amazing. So let’s talk a little bit about what you did before you joined Ariel. You were, you were Alliance Bernstein, a very well regarded firm for about 10 years, and you managed a couple of different projects and funds. Tell us a little bit about your experiences at Alliance. Christine Phillpotts: Yeah, absolutely. So essentially decided to leave grassroots business fund really to be able to go back into the listed equity space and to join a larger investment platform. And so at the time that I was considering potential opportunities, I came across the team that I joined and the fact that they were interested in launching a frontier on small emerging markets equity fund, which really paired well with my experience in small and frontier funds. And so I joined in early 2013 and specifically joined initially to cover Sub-Saharan African stocks and also to help launch this new fund, which was called the Next 50 Emerging Markets Equity Strategy. And the idea was to have a fund that’s specifically focused on frontier and small emerging markets that were even less efficient. So one of the least efficient markets in an already inefficient part of the capital markets, which is emerging markets. Barry Ritholtz: So, so let’s, let’s just define some terms a little bit. I think e the listeners know what developed markets are or developed XUS, which would be things like Europe and Japan. What’s the difference between frontier funds and emerging markets? Like how do you just define those two geographies? Christine Phillpotts:  Yeah, that’s a great question. A lot of times the lines can be blurred and co countries could go from one to the other and back. So we use the MSCI benchmark definition. So they have specific criteria on differentiating between what’s in the emerging markets benchmark and what’s in the dedicated frontier benchmark. So parameters around, for example, liquidity, market mechanisms and other criteria, depth of the markets that will determine what’s emerging and what’s frontier. But I think the broader sense that we focus on is really, again, around this notion of efficiency or lack thereof and opportunities and markets in which we can get an edge through active management. And I would say the benefits of the inefficiencies in emerging markets are that much more magnified for frontier markets. But there are review cycles in which countries get upgraded to emerging markets or downgraded to frontier markets, depending on how some of those market characteristics evolve. Barry Ritholtz: So, so let’s, let’s put some specific geographies to test. Where does China fall into this? Is it still emerging? Considered emerging, emerging, not quite developed? What about South Korea? Christine Phillpotts: That’s a great question. So South Korea for the MSCI definition is emerging. Isn’t that kind of easy? That’s what argue it should be developed. So I mean south, Barry Ritholtz: Well if, if Japan is obviously a developed nation. Yeah. Is South Korea all that far behind Japan in terms of their maturity of their markets? 00:20:35 [Speaker Changed] So there’s, I guess there’s two parameters there. So one is, you know, from the economic standpoint, if you look at economic characteristics and criteria, that’s one layer within which to categorize countries between developed and emerging. The other is really around just how the equity markets function, the depth 00:20:54 [Speaker Changed] Of it, 00:20:54 [Speaker Changed] The liquidity in depth of liquidity, market rules, and other criteria that will then cause another layer of differentiation between emerging and developed and frontier. 00:21:08 [Speaker Changed] So when I think about, let’s say the Middle East, you have Egypt, you have Saudi Arabia, you have Yeah. Dubai and Qatar and, and the Emirates. Are these all still considered emerging? 00:21:20 [Speaker Changed] Yes, they are. So they’re, they’re, except Egypt, for example, would be categorized as Frontier. 00:21:26 [Speaker Changed] Oh really? 00:21:26 [Speaker Changed] Yes. But Saudi is emerging. Right. So because you 00:21:30 [Speaker Changed] Think, again, you think of Saudi is like a fairly developed, I mean granted it’s a kingdom and a lot of Yeah. There’s a lot of poverty as well as a lot of wealth there. Yep. 00:21:38 [Speaker Changed] Yeah. And so I think for us, the way we think about it for emerging market strategy is we have the ability to invest across emerging and frontier markets. 00:21:48 [Speaker Changed] So it doesn’t matter what we label them less. 00:21:50 [Speaker Changed] Exactly. We do have a limit on what percent of the portfolio could be in what’s classified as frontier. But ultimately we’re looking across all of these markets. I mean, there’s 50 plus countries in the emerging markets world that have listed equity markets. So that’s a big pool Yeah. To draw upon. And ultimately we’re looking for the 60 stocks that we think have the best upside potential take into account liquidity and other parameters of risk. 00:22:18 [Speaker Changed] So I I, I was gonna ask about the structural differences between emerging markets and frontier markets, but it sounds like it’s a pretty technical definition. So let me go to what you just referenced. In terms of selecting stocks, do you approach that process from a a top down country by country basis? Is it a bottom up analysis company by company, or A little bit of both. 00:22:44 [Speaker Changed] So we’re bottoms up investors at the end of the day, we’re picking stocks. If you look at our sources of active risk, about 50 to 60% of that consistently is from idiosyncratic or stock specific drivers. That being said, and just to put that in context, country would contribute about 10 to 15%. That being said, neighborhood matters, right? Particularly in emerging markets. And so we cannot disentangle top down considerations from our bottoms up analysis because as we determine what discount rate to discount the free cash flows of a specific company, we need to think about the risk premium of that country, how the sovereign yields are likely to unfold, what are the currency risk as we think about the growth potential of a specific stock, we need to put that in the context of the growth potential of that country. And so these top-down considerations are ultimately really critical to consider as we look at specific individual stock opportunities. 00:23:44 So like real estate, neighborhood matters, and it also helps determine where we lean into or out of, in terms of where we place our focus. We wanna make sure that we have an alignment of interest, particularly as minority shareholders. That alignment is not just relevant to the specific stocks in terms of the management teams and the equity holders or the majority shareholders of the companies we invest in. We also think about alignment at the country level. What is the government looking to achieve? How is that evolving? How is that changing? And our very simplistic criteria is to not get in the way if there’s a country where we think the economic direction is moving in the wrong direction, and where there’s not that alignment with what the government’s looking to achieve, we don’t need to be invested in that country. There’s other places for us to fish. 00:24:34 [Speaker Changed] So, so I look around the world and I think about the various hotspots. I mean, hold aside, Russia, which has essentially become uninvestible, but Argentina and Venezuela went through their issues and Turkey obviously has had some problems. And to say nothing of what’s going on in the Middle East, do you have to have boots on the ground? Do you have to actually go visit these countries and get a sense of, hey, the headlines are overblown, or hey, this could be potentially worse than we realize? How, how often are you traveling to different places to get a feel for risk factors there? 00:25:11 [Speaker Changed] Absolutely. So we travel quite often. So our team, just to talk about our team structure, six of us have been working together, have moved from Alliance Bernstein to Ariel, and our team has been working together for over a decade, so no less than than 12 years specifically. And throughout that time, even though we’re based in New York, we understand the importance of visiting all the different countries we’re actively invested in. And so to that point, for example, last year I spent an aggregate four weeks in China to really not only meet with the management teams of listed companies, but to meet with their competitors privately held and publicly held to meet with local contacts, to meet with domestic investors, to meet with, you know, other key contacts and players where you can get more insight by having a face-to-face conversation oftentimes than you may be able to get on Zoom or even via text. And even doing site visits, right? Going to the malls, visiting real estate sites, going to the auto manufacturing plants, visiting battery plants really gives you a more concrete sense of what is occurring and to your point, what is beneath the headlines and what the market could be missing. 00:26:28 [Speaker Changed] Hmm. Really, really interesting. You know, I, I haven’t brought up China partly because it feels like China has become sort of uninvestible to outside companies because of their A shares and their foreign B shares. I’m curious, as a professional EM investor, how do you look at the opportunity and risks in China? Can we have a legitimate fair investment in China given the way things are structured? Or how do you, how do you think about China? 00:27:00 [Speaker Changed] So we think the opportunity in China today is meaningful largest country weight in our portfolio. It’s about 30% of our portfolio today. And we think that the opportunities are very attractive. I think there’s a couple of reasons for that. And by the way, we didn’t always have such a large weight in China for many years. We’re underweight China, but we moved to an overweight position last year in large part because from a bottoms up standpoint, we were seeing companies that started trading at single digit multiples. So six to eight times four PE that can generate double digit earnings growth and that are returning more capital to shareholders that are actually improving their capital allocation for the first time in decades. That is not being reflected in valuations from a top down standpoint. Even though the macroeconomic situation in China is challenged, we’re not debating that for us, we’re less interested in the absolute level and more in the second derivative. 00:28:03 So for example, for the real estate sector, what is the directionality of inventories? There’s still too much inventory, but is it going up or is it going down? And we’re seeing evidence of inventories declining, just as an example, new starts have declined over 65% from the peak. Wow. So even though demand has declined, new starts has declined even further in the latest data we’re seeing for secondary prices and primary prices, there’s still a decline, but the level of decline is lower than it had been. So we think the evidence indicates that when looking at cycles, looking at that second derivative tends to be more correlated with how equity prices perform as opposed to focusing just on the absolute levels. 00:28:48 [Speaker Changed] Hmm. Really, really interesting. You know, you, you mentioned you were underweight China for a while. When we look at the returns dating back to, I don’t know, I wanna say the early nineties hasn’t really distinguished itself despite incredibly rapid economic growth. Which really raises an interesting question. Do we invest in emerging market countries because their economies are growing? Or do we invest in those countries because their companies are generating growth in profits at a, at a rapid clip? 00:29:20 [Speaker Changed] I think that’s a really critical point specifically with China. So as you pointed out, if you look at the, the history over decades, despite very strong GDP growth, EPS growth lagged that GDP growth, partly because of management decision making, equity issuance, and capital allocation decisions. We’re starting to see the reverse now happen where GDP growth is slowing and it’s never going to match what the GDP growth has been like for the last decade. And, and to put, but EPS growth is going to actually exceed that GDP growth because of some of the behaviors I mentioned of a steep acceleration in share repurchases, more judicious use of capital exiting non-core businesses, redeploying that in higher incremental returns generating ventures. And so the relationship between EPS growth and GDP growth, in many cases, there’s a strong correlation, but in other cases you really need to pay attention to the company’s specific drivers for the EPS growth and free cashflow generation because that’s ultimately what determines share price moves, not overall GDP growth 00:30:28 [Speaker Changed] Re really fascinating. What about the risk? I have a vivid recollection of a couple of years ago when some of the senior executives at big tech companies fell into disfavor from the, let’s be blunt, the central communist planning group and folks disappeared for a while. The head of Tencent, the head of Alibaba, the head of a couple of other companies just suddenly disappeared, or at least temporarily. How much of a risk is there when you’re investing in China that you don’t know what the Chinese government is gonna do? And, and to be fair, hey, I have no idea what the American government’s gonna do either, but it seems to be a very specific risk that’s foreign to American investors. 00:31:15 [Speaker Changed] Yeah. And I think that goes back to this idea of trying to understand the incentive structures of the government having a view on what they’re looking to achieve and not getting in the way. So to use the example of the tech crackdown and, and I’ll extend that to also the education sector crackdown that proceeded it. He, Jing had been, I would argue, pretty clear on some of the issues he had with private sector, with private education, with how tech companies had evolved and the role, the disproportionate role they were playing in the economy and the relationship with merchants and ultimately some of the concerns around common prosperity or that going against the common prosperity agenda. And so I think there was that tension already in place. It was a surprise about how the government decided to go about resolving that tension. Yeah. But the tension was there. And so I would argue based on our framework of really trying to understand what are the problems the government’s looking to solve and lean into the companies that could be solutions to those problems as opposed to the companies that are viewed as obstacles to solving those problems is a way to reduce the risk 00:32:39 [Speaker Changed] From 00:32:40 [Speaker Changed] Regulatory intervention. So you, you 00:32:41 [Speaker Changed] Wanna align your investments with things that the central planners are in favor with. And so when you’re investing with a company that also has the backing of the government, you’re much less likely to have those sort of, kind of surprising one off risks that we saw a few years ago. Fair. 00:32:58 [Speaker Changed] Yeah. Yeah. And I think just going to the big tech companies today, they are now proactively managing how they engage with merchants and making sure for example, that the split of value is, I would argue more favorable to merchants today than it was during the period of of the crackdowns. There’s also an element of making sure that the entrepreneurs are not outshining party officials. And so there’s a lot of different elements that are being explicitly taken into account that one needs to be aware of as we think about, again, what are those potential risk and pressure points, how do we mitigate them? And ultimately we’re looking to build a 60 stock portfolio across 20 plus different markets so we don’t have to be in all countries. And we certainly don’t have to be in all sectors if we think that that misalignment exist. 00:33:53 [Speaker Changed] So final question about this topic now, you know, pretty much the past decade everybody lagged what the US did and I’ve been hearing lots of people throwing the towels and saying, Hey, if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em. Is now the wrong time to capitulate? Is now the wrong time to give up on emerging markets and frontiers? Tell us what, what opportunities are out there looking forward? 00:34:18 [Speaker Changed] Absolutely. So if you look at the history of EM, equity performance relative to US equities performance, there’s a clear pattern over the last couple of decades, a very long cycles of outperformance and underperformance. And clearly we’re in a very long cycle of over a decade of em. And quite frankly anything outside the US underperforming the us. The reason why I think now is the wrong time to capitulate is for a couple of reasons. One is, if you think about EM, equity valuations versus the s and p, the EM index is trading at, you know, 10 to 11 times forward pe. The s and p is above 20 times. So the discounts from a price to book standpoint is over 60% price to earnings, about 40% discount. That’s the widest discount we’ve seen ever. But key valuations are necessary but not sufficient condition for an opportunity to be attractive. 00:35:18 Right. You also wanna see what is the catalyst to that valuation discount closing. And we see several of those catalysts in emerging markets. One is emerging markets earnings this year and for the next few years are expected to accelerate EPS growth for some of the reasons I mentioned earlier, is expected to accelerate and be higher than the arguably lofty EPS growth expectations out of the us. And that’s driven by not only economic drivers, but also fundamental company specific drivers. I think the other standpoint to think about is in terms of flows, the US dollar is at close to 20 year highs in a period where the US deficit running at 6%, arguably is going to widen at a period where rate policy is TBD. Our thesis is not premised on the US dollar massively weakening, but we think that there’s increasing probabilities of dollar weakness given the starting point that we’re in. And that from a flow standpoint should be an additional upside driver to flows into emerging markets. 00:36:29 [Speaker Changed] Huh, really, really interesting. So after a decade at Alliance Bernstein, you landed Ariel about a year ago. Tell us what that transition was like from what’s a giant investment house to something that’s a little more of a boutique? 00:36:43 [Speaker Changed] Yeah, absolutely. So Ariel was seeking to launch a dedicated emerging market equity strategy. Ariel has a 40 plus year history of value investing in equity markets, starting in the small and mid-cap segments in the us The firm launched an international and global strategies about 12 years ago. And so emerging markets was actually a natural extension as aerial focuses on investing in the less efficient parts of global capital markets. ’cause as you imagine, us small cap is also relatively less efficient compared, you know, in the context of the US equity markets. Our team had an opportunity to join to help build the emerging markets business at Aerial. And it’s a really extremely exciting opportunity. As I mentioned, our team has been working together for no less than a decade. We’ve had an investment process, an investment style that has been deployed for for decades. And to me personally, it was really exciting to have the opportunity to be an intrapreneur and to really launch a new business with the backing of such an established and well-respected platform. Like, like Ariel and I had been following Ariel and John Rogers and Melody Hobson since my analyst stay at JP Morgan. So I was particularly excited to join a firm just given the really strong track record and reputation. And 00:38:15 [Speaker Changed] One of the things I find interesting about Ariel is the insignia of the firm, which is a turtle holding a trophy. And like the sash says, slow and steady wins the race. What, what does that say about their philosophy of investing and their emphasis on long-term goals? 00:38:34 [Speaker Changed] Well that’s one of the many elements that made joining Ariel so incredibly attractive. First of all, in terms of their investment philosophy. It really is across all of the investment strategies at Ariel, having a fundamental bottom up value oriented style that really thinks about the long term. So we’re not looking to call quarters, we’re really thinking about the longer term trajectory of a business and owning businesses that are trading at meaningful discounts to their intrinsic value. We’re able to look at that longer term horizon and take advantage of market dislocations that often focus too much on short-term noise as opposed to long-term trajectory. And we take advantage of that discrepancy, but it not only reflects how they invest, it also reflects how Aerial thinks about building the business and growing the business. So we were strategy number four at aerial. This firm started in the early eighties. 00:39:33 So you could say that aerial is adding a new strategy once a decade, right? That’s very different than other firms, particularly larger asset management firms where there’s often pressure to add more and more new strategies in a much more diversified fashion. And so I think the focus on value investing, the discipline to really just focus on expanding and adding strategies where it’s a fit with the culture and the investment philosophy of the firm is really attractive. And for us as a new team there, longer term horizon is also attractive because they’re thinking about emerging markets in the long haul. They’re not saying, okay, we need this to work after six months. They’re thinking about building this business from a longer term horizon, which again, as a team was extremely attractive for us. 00:40:23 [Speaker Changed] If you go to the website today, it, it specifically says active patients. Yes. So a new strategy once a decade that seems fairly patient approach to investing. What was it like rolling out their fourth strategy? 00:40:40 [Speaker Changed] It’s been incredible. I think going in, we, we clearly had high expectations going in or else we wouldn’t have made the move. But our experience, there’s been a lot of upside surprise to use the term of an investor relative to the already high original expectations. So it’s been incredible. I think the support we’ve received from the organization has been phenomenal. And again, I’m talking about from the, you know, from the leadership on, you know, on throughout the organization because ultimately we are the fourth strategy. We’re not one of 200 strategies. And so what also made makes it a very exciting opportunity and it really scratches my entrepreneurial itch, is that we are really able to have a meaningful impact on the firm. We’re not a drop in the bucket. So if we succeed, which I know we will, we can really move the needle. And that has a lot of impact and that does an incredible amount to increase level of motivation. 00:41:42 [Speaker Changed] One of the strategies that you guys manage is emerging markets value X China. Tell us a little bit about that strategy. 00:41:51 [Speaker Changed] Yeah, so what’s interesting is the impetus for launching that strategy, which we launched a month after our emerging markets value strategy, was because several allocators indicated that they had an interest in an X China strategy. Not because they don’t want to invest in China, but because they already have dedicated China allocations. China is a very large and inefficient market where allocators, some allocators decide to invest in local managers and have dedicated China allocations for. So for those managers, some of them have decided, you know what, I want my global emerging markets equities manager to focus on everything else outside of China to not necessarily double up my China exposure. But it is not, to date has not been a reflection of a desire to not invest in China. 00:42:45 [Speaker Changed] So we’ve talked about lots of different parts of the world. The one area we haven’t spoken about is India, which has had some pretty good, pretty robust performance over the past few years. Give us an update what’s going on in India, how attractive is that? Has that gotten ahead of itself? Share your thoughts on, on the subcontinent of India. Yeah, 00:43:04 [Speaker Changed] Absolutely. So India has been the standout outperformer within emerging markets. And I think that it’s a market that will continue to have a strong economic growth outlook. That started with the rise to power of Modi, who implemented a number of reforms that really helped unlock economic growth. We see the growth being powered by infrastructure investments, which will unleash some productivity improvement by consumer, by credit growth. So there’s a lot to, like with the indie economic story, the challenge is that we think that’s already priced in to the equity markets. So the market trades above 20 times forward pe 00:43:44 [Speaker Changed] It’s not cheap at all. We think 00:43:45 [Speaker Changed] It’s price to perfection. And so for us as value investors, we prefer to invest in a market like Southeast Asia, which has similarly attractive economic growth, six to 7% real GDP growth over the next few years at a fraction of the multiple, you know, markets it like Vietnam and Philippines are turning at 10 to 11 times four. 00:44:08 [Speaker Changed] That’s what I was gonna specifically ask. So it’s, it’s Vietnam, it’s Philippines, any other countries and Indonesia. 00:44:13 [Speaker Changed] Yeah. And we think it’s a really interesting time in the emerging markets universe because we think it’s one of the few opportunities I’ve seen in the last few decades where you don’t have to choose between value and growth, you get both. You can get growth at extremely compelling valuations. India is not one of those markets in our opinion, but there are plenty of markets that fit that criteria. 00:44:34 [Speaker Changed] So help me understand how you guys come up with a way of weighting the various geographies you’re exposed to. We, we’ve talked about the Middle East, south America, various parts of Asia. Is it a function of the specific companies that you find in each region? Or do you approach it, hey, I think we should have some Southeast Asia and try and ramp that up to x percent? How, how does that balance out? 00:45:02 [Speaker Changed] Yeah, so it’s really a bottoms up approach. So ultimately, look, we’re looking for stocks that we think can deliver meaningful upsides. So today, for example, we’re not going to invest in a new opportunity that doesn’t give us at least 30% absolute upside in dollar terms. That’s a, we think there’s just a lot of really great opportunities in the markets. And so we start with that bottoms up approach where we’re looking for those opportunities that can deliver that. And our investment philosophy is really anchored around value with a catalyst. So we’re value investors valuations and price matter, but it’s not the only criteria. We also wanna make sure that we’re focused on companies where there’s a stabilization and an inflection point at hand in the underlying business momentum. And we think that discipline, focusing on value with a catalyst helps make sure we’re focused on the value opportunities as opposed to the value traps. And so with that lens in mind, we’re picking stocks that meet that criteria and ultimately, as I mentioned, we can lean into or maybe put higher focus on countries where we think the top-down environment is, is fruitful and lean out of countries that are, we think heading in the wrong direction. But ultimately the country overweights and underweights are really driven by that stock select approach. 00:46:27 [Speaker Changed] Huh, really interesting. You know, I I, I read this data point on Ariel that I had to ask about ’cause it’s so interesting. Employees and board members own almost 95% of the firm. What does this mean to you as an employee and what does it mean to your clients? 00:46:43 [Speaker Changed] So just as I, as an investor focus on alignment of interest with the companies I’m investing in and with the countries we’re investing in, I think our clients are equally asking similar questions of what is the alignment of interest with the investment managers I do business with. And so with that statistic, it’s very clear that at aerial there is that strong level of alignment. Not only do the aerial employees, a majority of aerial employees, compensation is tied to stock, it’s also tied to the performance of you, the strategies you’re responsible for managing. So we’re eating our cooking and at a firm level, because it’s such a focused firm, when I own shares in Aerial as a portfolio manager in the emerging markets division, I can move the needle of that broader aerial share price in a way that is hard to do when you’re at a 600 billion or $1 trillion asset management firm. Where if you get equity in that company, your contribution just mathematically right, is a lot lower. Right. 00:48:01 [Speaker Changed] And, and historically you were at Alliance Bernstein, you were JP Morgan, you were at Morgan Stanley, you could shoot the lights out, it’s not gonna impact the bottom line all that much ’cause they’re just such behemoths. 00:48:12 [Speaker Changed] Exactly. So it’s just a different structure and a different model. But I think with this model, and I, I see it with our team, it’s clear we, we’ve always been an extremely hardworking, diligent, motivated team. But it got kicked up a thousand notches when joining Ariel. And so it’s just incredible case study in what strong alignment of interests can do in terms of just shaping your day-to-day behavior and how you interact at work and ultimately how aligned you are with the clients you’re investing money for. 00:48:47 [Speaker Changed] I think I have an interview coming up at Futureproof Citywide Miami with Melody Hobson who you work with. She’s a legend in the industry. Yeah. What’s it like to work with Melody? 00:48:58 [Speaker Changed] She’s incredible. As I mentioned, I’ve, you know, been following her since I was a junior analyst at JP Morgan Asset management, getting to work with her and John Rogers has been just unbelievable and incredible. And one thing I think about Melody is that he is really funny, very down to earth. I mean, I was surprised how down to earth she is and just very passionate and diligent about her work. And so, you know, the fact that she is out there actively advocating for and fundraising for our emerging market strategy, yeah. I’m just so incredibly grateful for, but it just shows that level of focus and dedication and the fact that Melody can do that because we are a firm that is focused and not trying to be, you know, all things to all people. So, so that’s just been a really incredible and inspiring experience. 00:49:57 [Speaker Changed] And let me throw you a little bit of a curve ball before we get to our favorite questions. Yeah. You serve on the board of directors of the Small Enterprise Assistance Fund. Yes. Tell us a little bit about what that Impact Fund does. Yeah, 00:50:11 [Speaker Changed] Absolutely. So I, I recently stepped off of the board, but I had been on the board for a number of of years and the CF Fund is an impact investing fund that actually I had a chance to co-invest with and work alongside when I was at Grassroots Business Fund. So it’s a fund I’m very familiar with that really focuses on private equity investing among small and mid-sized companies as a tool of grassroots bottoms up economic development. 00:50:38 [Speaker Changed] So impact not merely looking to generate a return solely, you want to 00:50:44 [Speaker Changed] Actually looking at both? Yes. So what I guess we would call a double bottom line right. Fund. Exactly. So the, the fund has experience from China to Tanzania to Peru, to, to Ukraine. I mean the, they’ve worked in, they’ve worked not only in emerging and frontier markets, but I would call Horizon markets, which are kind of the level, I guess below frontier markets. They’ve worked in really challenging but interesting places. And so it’s a fund that even though I recently stepped off the board after a number of years, I have a tremendous amount of respect for the work that they do. Huh. 00:51:22 [Speaker Changed] Really, really interesting. All right. Let’s jump to our favorite questions that we ask all of our guests. Starting with what’s keeping you entertained these days? What are you watching or listening to? 00:51:33 [Speaker Changed] So, it’s interesting, I, I tend to, in terms of streaming and tv, I tend to lean towards dystopian scripted dramas. So think Squid Game, black Mirror Three Body Problem. I love those shows. 00:51:48 [Speaker Changed] I love Three Body 00:51:49 [Speaker Changed] Problems. It’s incredible. 00:51:51 [Speaker Changed] Did you start the new season? 00:51:52 [Speaker Changed] I did not. ’cause now I’m on Squid Game. Oh yeah, I did start Squid Game version two. I 00:51:56 [Speaker Changed] Just saw the preview for it. It’s, 00:51:58 [Speaker Changed] It’s in Incre. I love it. Yeah, I love it. Love it. Has mixed 00:52:00 [Speaker Changed] Reviews. I love the 00:52:01 [Speaker Changed] First one. It has, the second season has mixed reviews, but I, I’m really enjoying it so far. So that I would say is my core. But I also really enjoy Below Deck. So 00:52:12 [Speaker Changed] Below Deck, what is Below Deck? Oh, you mean the Star Trek animated? 00:52:15 [Speaker Changed] No, no. Below Deck is literally, that’s Below Deck a reality show on Bravo. It’s the only reality show that I watch, but it’s basically about crew that work on yachts. Okay. And what I love about the show, it’s, I mean it’s the typical reality show where there’s drama and all this other stuff. But what I love about it is because they’re actually working. There’s a lot of kind of managerial lessons of leadership, the relationship between the captain and the boson. The relationship between different departments like the interior versus the exterior of the boat, hiring and firing decisions. There’s a lot there that I find to be absolutely fascinating. And beyond that, they’re in mega yachts in incredible locations around the world. So I think it 00:53:04 [Speaker Changed] Looks great. I 00:53:04 [Speaker Changed] Bet I think Harvard should do a case study on it at some point, but it’s, it’s a fun show, huh? 00:53:10 [Speaker Changed] I I’m gonna, I’m gonna drop a footnote with you on Squid Games. Do you know the background of the guy who wrote Squid Games? No. So there was a Wall Street Journal article, like right in the early part of the pandemic when Squid Games had blown up. It turns out that this guy had been trying to sell the script for Squid games for a decade. Wow. And could everybody, this is crazy. A competition for money where people die, this is, nobody would believe this is, is too crazy. And Netflix, as they tend to do, they just buy stuff in mass and then go through the process of seeing what they can develop. Like they, they don’t just buy something from Fred over there. Yeah. It’s like, let’s just scoop up all this and see what we can find. And at one point in time, the guy who wrote it, who developed it, had to sell his laptop ’cause he was that broke. And it just goes to show you like nobody wanted anything to do with this. And it’s the single most successful show in the history of Netflix. It’s just, it’s just wild. And 00:54:16 [Speaker Changed] It’s, it’s fascinating to me too, because it’s also just part of this surge of Korean, the globalization of Korean culture, right. Whether it’s K-Pop in movies, television, even food is cosmetics. So it’s really interesting to think to put Squid games in the context of this huge resurgence in Korean culture, globalization, which quite frankly I think people wouldn’t have predicted, you know, a decade ago. Right. So it’s really 00:54:44 [Speaker Changed] Interesting. I, I think Netflix just spent another billion dollars over the past three years since Squid game buying more South Korean product. Yeah. Which is, which is pretty, pretty amazing. Yeah. Next question, tell us about your mentors who helped shape your career. 00:55:00 [Speaker Changed] So I’ve been tremendously lucky that over the course of my career I’ve had incredible men mentors and also sponsors. And I like to put the point on the sponsors piece because I like to think that mentors, you know, get you into the building. But sponsors put you on the express elevator to the top. And so they’re the ones who are pounding the table for you when you’re not there. And so I’ve been lucky to have incredible, you know, relationships in, in both dimensions. People I’d call out specifically. I mean there’s a lot, there are a lot of people who’ve been very helpful. But I would say if I think about my JP Morgan days, you know, particularly, you know, earlier on at JP Morgan, individuals like Kay her who you know, was an equities analyst, now he’s actually in fixed income at JP Morgan Asset Management. 00:55:49 She really, when I was just a college student that didn’t know anything about emerge, about investment management, really took me under her wing and, and really encouraged me to actually pursue credit research before equity research. ’cause there’s no opening in equity research. And she said, you know what? Credit research, I know that’s not what you want to do right now, but this will help you build the skillset that you will need in equity research in terms of assessing companies, et cetera. And I’m so glad you gave me that advice because that really was the starting point of my career in securities analysis. You know, other individuals include Professor Andre per, who was my finance professor at HBS, who I’m still in touch with. He’s been a really great advisor and mentor to me and really has helped counsel me through, you know, different stages of my career. And again, I feel bad ’cause I’m, there’s a lot of people I’m not naming right. But there’s just been, you know, I’ve been very 00:56:44 [Speaker Changed] For, it’s like the Golden Globe speech. 00:56:45 [Speaker Changed] You can’t get to everyone. I wanna thank everyone, but I’ve, I’ve just been very fortunate to have incredible mentors still in my life. And I just hope that I can pay it forward for that next generation and in the process of mentoring kind of more junior talent to again, try to pay it forward. 00:57:00 [Speaker Changed] Let’s talk about books. What are some of your favorites? What are you reading right now? 00:57:04 [Speaker Changed] So I just finished The Obstacle as the Way 00:57:07 [Speaker Changed] Brian Holiday. Brian 00:57:08 [Speaker Changed] Holiday. Yeah. That really I found to be an incredible book because it essentially talks about how obstacles, challenges, problems are not things to be avoided but embraced and sought after. Which seems very counterintuitive ’cause we’re constantly trying to optimize our professional and personal lives to, you know, avoid stumbling blocks. And this is saying no, embrace the stumbling blocks because that’s ultimately how you learn. And for me in particular, as a recovering perfectionist, it really resonated with me to kind of hear that message. And I actually find myself referring back to it in my personal and professional life that you know what? The obstacles are a good thing and you learn from them and that’s how you become stronger. And, and he just points to so many different examples from history, philosophy, current events that really ties and brings to life that concept. So it’s a book I really, really enjoyed. 00:58:05 And what I’m reading right now, I’m kind of 25% of the way in, is on ing, written by Kevin Rudd, who’s the former Australian ambassador who has decades of experience living and working with China and with politicians in China. I read The Avoidable War, which was an incredible book that talked about, you know, US China relations and the outlook for that on Xi Jing specifically focuses on Xi Jinping thought and how, what the basis for that thought, what’s the basis for the thinking? What are the incentives and how those could evolve. And my friends who work and are based in China, different, different individuals separately have told me that he’s probably the top westerner who has the best understanding of chi Chinese politics today and of China. And so I take their word for it that he’s, he has a lot of good insights. 00:58:59 [Speaker Changed] Huh. Really, really kind of interesting. As a side note, I am not a perfectionist, but I have noticed we’ve all heard the expression, don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Yes. Yes. I could tell you from my personal experience, it doesn’t matter if you’re shopping for a house or anytime you’re making a consumer choice, I have a tendency to go down a rabbit hole. Yep. And let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And it’s been a process to kind of learn how to get around that. Yes. How did you learn how to manage? And by the way, I am not a perfectionist. Yeah. I’m a just get it done. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn’t, doesn’t matter. Yeah. If it’s not perfect, we’ll we’ll fix it later. Yeah. In most things. But in like that sort of big consumer choice, the, the perfect has always been the enemy of the good for me. And I look back at choices I made and we’re like, gee, you know, I should have done that house. Which has appreciated more than Yes. ’cause you don’t end up in a perfect house. Yes. And what you sometimes give up. So I’m, I’m curious, how did you manage that personally? 01:00:08 [Speaker Changed] I am still managing it. Yeah. So I’m still Well, you’re always 01:00:11 [Speaker Changed] Gonna 01:00:11 [Speaker Changed] Be, I’m always working on it. And so, I mean, it’s, it’s actually interesting talking about real estate. I mean, as a side note, my husband and I have been talking, we live in Brooklyn now. We’ve been talking about moving closer to our kids’ school, which is on the Upper East side to optimize the commute, et cetera, et cetera. We’ve been talking about this for maybe six years now. 01:00:31 [Speaker Changed] Right. Watching prices just go up and up and up to 01:00:34 [Speaker Changed] Your point, well, I want this and we want that. And this is like our perfect dream home and it needs to be two blocks away from the school. And so this is literally an active conversation now as we enter 2025. Like at some point we just need to, to do it. It’s not gonna be perfect. And so for me, I think in terms of opportunity cost, right? So what are we giving up by not doing this now? 01:00:57 [Speaker Changed] Right. 01:00:59 [Speaker Changed] And which is what you alluded to as well, in terms of pricing, appreciation, et cetera. Sure. And also just understanding that there is no perfect anything. I It’s trade offs. It’s trade 01:01:10 [Speaker Changed] Offs. So you’re a hundred percent right. I have a quick funny story to share. A couple of years ago, I’m trying to remember if it was pre or post pandemic. No, I think it was right after the pandemic. I gave a presentation to the International Luxury Real Estate Alliance, and it was in Aspen, Colorado. So it’s beautiful there. And you know, and it’s a few a hundred real estate agents and each of them represent the highest performing realtor in their town. And it’s not, you know, Podunk Yeah. It’s, it’s Vail and it’s Nashville and it’s New York, and it’s Seattle and it’s London. It’s just crazy. The sort of sort of like top real estate producers all around the world. And we’re having, you know, there’s a bunch, the dinner that night or a bunch of separate tables of six or eight and there’s a, an older woman from Palm Beach, Florida. 01:02:06 Yeah. Ritzy part of, of Florida. And she, she takes a phone call and she’s like, I, I apologize, I have to take this. She’s gone for 30 seconds. She comes back and she goes, oh, deal is done. Oh, what’d you sell Palm Beach on the, on the water. $110 million. What? And I say, $110 million. That house has to be perfect. And I’ll never forget her response. She’s like, me. I’m like, wait a second. Wow. $110 million. What are you talking about? And she goes, well, it’s a part of Palm Beach I like, but I don’t love three blocks in either direction. I like better. It’s a bulkhead, not a sandy beach. Oh, interesting. You go two doors over and it’s Sandy Beach, they have a dock, but it’s not a deep water. Like she starts clicking stuff off and I’m like, do you mean to tell me that, not that I have $110 million, but if I did, the house I’m buying is really a series of compromises. And she said, every house at every price point is a compromise. 01:03:10 [Speaker Changed] That’s very true. 01:03:12 [Speaker Changed] How and sale. But you would think at a certain 01:03:15 [Speaker Changed] Point, right? Like it needs to nail most of the 01:03:18 [Speaker Changed] Right. And it’s like, but she’d like clicked off like, wait 110 and you don’t love it. She’s like, yeah, it’s all right. Wow. I’m like, come on, you gotta be ca I, I’m sure there are lots of houses that most listeners would say, you know, for $5 million, I would love that place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And at 20 times that amount, it’s like the, she was just so now granted she’s been doing real estate in Palm Beach for 40 years. Right. She’s seen everything. Right. But still to just kind of shrug and say, eh, you know, it’s all right. That’s mind blowing. So that 01:03:49 [Speaker Changed] Puts in perspective and, 01:03:50 [Speaker Changed] And that’s kind of what, you know, whenever I’m like, I like this place, right. But it doesn’t have this and this and this. It’s like, well it’s $107 million than the Met Place cheaper than the Met Place 01:04:03 [Speaker Changed] In Palm Beach. Right. So 01:04:04 [Speaker Changed] Deal with some trade-offs. Right. Like 01:04:06 [Speaker Changed] Trade-offs. Exactly. And like what do you prioritize? ’cause you’re not gonna get everything. Right. 01:04:09 [Speaker Changed] That’s 01:04:10 [Speaker Changed] Right. So what are we trying to solve for? 01:04:12 [Speaker Changed] So one, once you adapt the attitude that Right, I’m never gonna get in everything. What’s the bigger pro, Hey, I don’t really love this kitchen. Yeah. And I, you know, the, where the driveway comes in, man, I don’t love that. But you could always change. If it bothers you that much, you can eventually change it. Yeah. But it’s shocking that even at that price point that is, there’s some trade offs. It that has stayed with 01:04:38 [Speaker Changed] Me. 01:04:39 [Speaker Changed] That’s a good story for forever that, I mean, it’s only been a couple years, but it’s stayed with me because when the perfect is the enemy of the good. Yeah, exactly. Like at what point, what at what point is it perfect? Yes. If it’s not perfect at a hundred million dollars. Yes. Yes. Well I think you have to give up the idea. Exactly. 01:04:56 [Speaker Changed] Exactly. 01:04:56 [Speaker Changed] Exactly. But that, that’s been a issue that I, I’ve always kind of wrestled with. And the sooner you accept, it’s always a series of trade offs there if you are. But that’s an absolutely true story and I, it, it stayed with me to this day. Alright, our last two questions. What sort of advice would you give to a recent college grad who is interested in a career in either investing or emerging markets and and value? 01:05:21 [Speaker Changed] Yeah, so I think it relates to what we’re just talking about, about not being a perfectionist. Because as an investor you are knocking out of the park if you are right. 60% of the time. Right. Even that’s a high level, right? You’re gonna be wrong a lot. And particularly in listed equities, unlike when I was doing private equity, private credit where there wasn’t a mark to market every single minute. You know, whether you’re adding or detracting value on a real time basis. And so letting go of the idea that, and I think sometimes young people feel this pressure when they start in this business that, you know, I need to get it right a hundred percent of the time. And that leads to a lot of risk aversion as a result. ’cause they’re afraid of making a mistake. They’re afraid of making the wrong call. 01:06:13 And that could help stymie decision making and decisiveness. I try to tell people who are starting this business, you need to let go of that and just kind of understand you will be wrong. Ideally, you wanna be right slightly more times than you’re wrong. And when you’re right, ideally the upside is greater than the downside when you’re wrong. But that’s the game we’re trying to play. We’re not shooting for a hundred percent. So I would say that’s the biggest piece of advice. I would say. The other broader advice is to what, as someone put it earlier in my career, you know, lead with a yes. And so if there’s projects that come up, if there’s new opportunities, not over analyzing or overthinking, well am I a hundred percent ready to do this? Just say yes. And then you’ll figure it out. And I think that’s where you grow, that’s where you learn, that’s where you can really stretch yourself and kind of step out of your, your comfort zone. Particularly in emerging markets where there’s a lot required to kind of step out of comfort zones in terms of cultural differences, in terms of, you know, other dynamics. Just being comfortable or embracing that. And yeah, 01:07:21 [Speaker Changed] Really, really interesting. And our final question. What do you know about the world of investing today? You wish you knew 20 or so years ago when you were first starting out? 01:07:32 [Speaker Changed] I would say that the concept of it goes back to the importance of the mosaic theory, and particularly in less efficient markets like emerging markets. You know, all the data’s not going to come in a neat package. And so needing to be creative with how you get information, it’s almost like being a detective in some ways. How do you get information? How do you piece, how do you put the pieces of the puzzle together? How do you think outside of the box? Because oftentimes I think when, you know, when I was in school, you have an agenda, a textbook, you’re learning things, you’re doing the test, you get an a plus and then you kind of move on. Right? In the world of investing, it’s just so much more nebulous. And so it just requires you to stretch and have more creativity than just expecting things to come at you in a cleaner fashion. Which to be honest, was my experience in, you know, us large cap tech investing where data was abundant and widely available and much more efficient. But even with that type of investing, I think thinking more along this, being creative and putting the mosaic together more proactively is probably a lesson that I would wanna tell myself, you know, my 20-year-old self. Hmm. 01:09:00 [Speaker Changed] Really interesting. Thank you Christine, for being so generous with your time. We have been speaking with Christine Philpots of Ariel Investments, where she is a portfolio manager for emerging market value strategies. If you enjoy this conversation, well be sure to check out any of it are more than 500 previous discussions we’ve had over the past decade. You can find those at iTunes, Spotify, Bloomberg, YouTube, wherever you find your favorite podcasts. And be sure and check out my new book, how Not to Invest the Bad Ideas, numbers, and Behaviors that Destroys Wealth Publishing on March 18th. I would be remiss if I did not thank the crack team that helps put these conversations together each week. Sarah Livesey is my audio engineer. Anna Luke is my producer. Sean Russo is my head of research. Sage Bauman is the head of podcasts at Bloomberg. I’m Barry Als. 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The past should not be deployed in a superficial and tendentious manner by someone with no understanding of historical re… thesphinxblog.com https://thesphinxblog.com/2025/02/17/decline-and-fall/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:54:54 +0000 West Coast Stat Views (on Observational Epidemiology and more): How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the LLM part 1-- coding https://observationalepidemiology.blogspot.com/2025/02/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love.html I used to ask, only half-jokingly, how any of us learned to code before Google.  I went to grad school in the mid-90s, so I'm old enough to ... observationalepidemiology.blogspot.com https://observationalepidemiology.blogspot.com/2025/02/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:30:00 +0000 Open Letter to my Republican Congressman https://thepatronsaintofsuperheroes.wordpress.com/2025/02/17/open-letter-to-my-republican-congressman/ Dear Mr. Cline, I’m glad to see that your official “Congressman Ben Cline” Facebook page features an image of the U.S. Constitution, with the phrase “We the People” displayed for its 15,000 followe… thepatronsaintofsuperheroes.wordpress.com https://thepatronsaintofsuperheroes.wordpress.com/2025/02/17/open-letter-to-my-republican-congressman/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:18:00 +0000 Various Artists – Gotta Get Up! The Songs of Harry Nilsson Vols. 4 – The Squire Presents https://www.thesquirepresents.co.uk/various-artists-gotta-get-up-the-songs-of-harry-nilsson-vols-4/ www.thesquirepresents.co.uk https://www.thesquirepresents.co.uk/various-artists-gotta-get-up-the-songs-of-harry-nilsson-vols-4/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:07:28 +0000 On Setting Up a Raspberry Pi 2 as Off-grid Server (2015) https://www.earth.org.uk/note-on-Raspberry-Pi-2-setup.html Read how I set up my solar-powered RPi2 (previously a Model B then a B+) to take on load from servers elsewhere on the Internet... #RPi #frugal #offGrid 128GB micro SD card for it if I am to test some of my theories, but hopefully I can do that soon! Forced Upgrade! 2016-05-22: in the process of rearranging my off-grid system I seem to have bust the RPi B+ (it will no longer power up) so I am trying its SD card in the RPi2 B that I have to hand, and miraculously it just works!. I have changed the overclocking settings to the Pi2 preset:, though I notesuggestions that this overclock may not be stable. The system seems somewhat faster, though not hugely so. It may be helpful to allow a little more memory to key applications now that 1GB is available. Stability I'm seeing Java 8 crash in server mode, so I'm wondering if this is stability problem, though I am tweaking other parameters such as stack size to check. This suggests that the 'Pi2' overclock RAM setting may be slightly too fastwhile "Certain divisor relationships between CPU clock and core (L2 cache) clock (such as 2:1) seem to enhance stability and performance," resulting in suggested settings of: My preference would be to go back to the default 450MHz RAM speed, and the absolute minimum GPU memory. I got nervous on seeing more odd behaviour and possible filesystem corruption and commented out all but the minimum CPU frequency parameter, leaving the relevant part looking like this: which gets me back to the equivalent of arm_freq=900 and sdram_freq=450 as checked with. The 'core_freq' may be back to a very conservative value (250?). Java Stability I am more of the opinion that the Java 8 (server) version that was installed was unstable: so instead I have fetched the latest from the Oracle Web site: Note that neither supportfor the RPi2. 2016-06-10: as of today the Java server is stable, as is the RPi2. To try to keep the OOM killer at bay, and to try to be able to be less twitchy about default stack sizes, etc, I have enabled a small amount of ZRAM space (~128MB) in /etc/rc.local: Power LED 2017-08-17: following the suggestions in "Controlling PWR and ACT LEDs on the Raspberry Pi" I changed the bright red power LED to come on only when a CPU is busy, so I hope consequently much less when the system is conserving power, with the following in my: I'm usingrather thanin the expectation that CPU 0 may get woken for everything including interrupts, and other cores may get woken only for real user-land activity, and so the LED can spend more time off. I have now lost my visual reminder (the red LED going off when power is low) that I need to fix the power supply generally... Further Tweaks 2017-10-09: I am always looking for unnecessary processes and subsystem that I can cull, and having noticed excess getty lines in top, I came across "Disable some useless stuff in Raspbian". I particularly like disabling stuff that also reduces attack surface. InI commented out the last threeentries (they could possibly all go), followed by: 2017-10-13: I saw a lot of console-kit-daemon threads when runningwith the 'H' toggle to see all user threads within processes. So I followed the suggestion inCan consolekit sefely be removed, when running headless (no GUI)?and ran: If I do need to plug in a console/terminal to recover the system, I don't need X11, just a plain tty. I also movedto aversion. 2018-11-24: I backported the followingsetting from my in-progress RPi3 set-up, in case it helps avoid client bufferbloat even without the BBR congestion control also being applied on the RPi3: Note that I first applied it on the fly with: Still To Do - Controlling power to USB ports in software (eg to cut power to the Sunny Boy at night). - Upgrade of power supply to prevent power light flickering under load. - Power backup from stack of~150 'abused' NIMH 'hybrid' AA cells. - Add a daily root cron task forand other non-memory partitions as perext3/4 and SD-card wear leveling. - Periodically runto check sources of SD card traffic. 2022-12-06: Decommissioned I should have done this more than a year ago... This machine,is now turned off again, after TLC tothe micro SD card, and being briefly brought up to let pending mail through from outside. As of2022-12-07it is sitting on my desk, with the RTC card and battery still on, but all the rest for the moment in the kitchen cupboard to be unwired in due course, including power supply. The micro SD card is mounted on the new (RPi3B) server via a USB card reader so that I can quickly and easily extract config and data from it. Learn how we boldly conquered with Spacetherm aerogel the final IWI challenge of our blank end-of-terrace north-facing wall! #aerogel #IWI ]]> www.earth.org.uk https://www.earth.org.uk/note-on-Raspberry-Pi-2-setup.html Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:06:36 +0000 drill, baby, drill – Velcro City Tourist Board https://www.velcro-city.co.uk/drill-baby-drill/ www.velcro-city.co.uk https://www.velcro-city.co.uk/drill-baby-drill/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:06:17 +0000 Dave Tomlin 1934-2024 https://thebluemoment.com/2025/02/17/dave-tomlin-1934-2024/ I never met Dave Tomlin, or heard him play live, but the news of his death at the age of 90 rang a bell that echoed back to London in the late 1960s. A Tibetan prayer bell, probably: among other di… thebluemoment.com https://thebluemoment.com/2025/02/17/dave-tomlin-1934-2024/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:00:42 +0000 WikiTok https://paul.kinlan.me/2025-02-17-wikitok/ Link: WikiTok This is such an amazing site and has become a bit of a daily habit for me. It's a brilliantly simple idea that means I'm browsing more of Wikipedia than I ever have before. I built a similar demo a while ago using the now-defunct Portals API because I want to explore what a Web Browser could be if it had a UI like TikTok. My hypothesis was that while links are amazing, what is behind them is hidden, and worse (imo) it's behind a banner image that is often not representative of the content. paul.kinlan.me https://paul.kinlan.me/2025-02-17-wikitok/ Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:44:53 +0000